This week, retiring Gov. Jerry Brown speaks with Louis and John about his philosophy of education and his views on charter schools, the use of student data and what education leaders agree will be his most important contribution: the Local Control Funding Formula. Brown returned to a point he has emphasized since his first day in office: that the heart of education is the interaction between teachers and students, and government should not interfere with that relationship.

John and Louis met with Gov. Brown on his last day working at the Capitol, where staffers were clearing out offices and boxing up belongings.